tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.comments2015-10-26T07:32:19.594-07:00ML.CS3216MLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16837092729293214514noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-57249957725673073522015-10-26T07:32:19.594-07:002015-10-26T07:32:19.594-07:00You're right it's not in the boy toilets. ...You're right it's not in the boy toilets. LolPolarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05568938387529011286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-34713229419886309792015-09-10T18:41:42.254-07:002015-09-10T18:41:42.254-07:00Hey Mei Lan,
Hope you had fun through the creatio...Hey Mei Lan,<br /><br />Hope you had fun through the creation of ExchangeHunt! I certainly did myself as I have been through a lot in that short span of 3 weeks. <br /><br />I couldn't agree more on the importance of having a great team. Having a good team motivates and pushes me to finish strong, even on days where I was in a literal zombie state. lol. <br /><br />All the best for assignment 3!<br />Ming YiMing Yihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15024518369988881026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-50215680884787448922015-09-06T07:50:51.301-07:002015-09-06T07:50:51.301-07:00Hi Mei Lan,
Thanks for the very clear and thoroug...Hi Mei Lan,<br /><br />Thanks for the very clear and thorough post on Apple Music. There's plenty of discussion going around here already, so I thought I'd just add a short point. <br /><br />I think a critical flaw of Apple Music is that it is trying to do something that has already been done. As Evan (or Sebastian, sorry if I got the first name wrong) mentioned, Apple likes to take something - something they may not have invented - and call it "revolutionary". This is fine if you better the existing systems, but does Apple Music actually fill the users' needs? Or solve an issue users currently face? Judging by the UI/UX reviews from the class, I highly doubt so.<br /><br />I would say that this is a classic case of what Wenxiang from Zopim mentioned: Apple should not have made a product looking to earn a share of their large user base. They should have focused on making a good product their users would love to use.Nitsujhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13595131766428360929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-56757303914479015532015-09-06T04:43:38.142-07:002015-09-06T04:43:38.142-07:00Hey Mei Lan,
It is unfortunate that the branding ...Hey Mei Lan,<br /><br />It is unfortunate that the branding power of Apple is too strong that even if their product has many UI/UX flaws, people still ended up loving and praising it. This happens with the UI/UX of their other products as well, for instance OSX still have UI/UX issues that they haven't fix since 10.6. <br /><br />So yeah, I doubt that many UI/UX issues that the team presented will be fixed, at least most of them will be left untouched.<br /><br />Apple seems to have the philosophy: This is our "revolutionary" way, deal with it.<br /><br />I'm also one of the people that switched from Spotify to Music, but it's because it has larger number of collections and I don't really care about UI/UX since most of the time I just left it in background playing a huge list of music.Evan Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10469443242770197646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-81563177685675890062015-09-06T02:08:55.324-07:002015-09-06T02:08:55.324-07:00hahah wow sherlocked! Haha I didn't know that....hahah wow sherlocked! Haha I didn't know that.<br /><br />Yes, even as an Apple fan, i'm happy with my free Spotify. Till Apple gives us a good reason to change haha. Or maybe... till the next Taylor Swift album and we see a spike in Apple Music users hahahaMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16837092729293214514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-75923911399665835582015-09-06T02:07:04.881-07:002015-09-06T02:07:04.881-07:00Oh! I didn't know that Apple Music requires iO...Oh! I didn't know that Apple Music requires iOS8.4. Oh cool. That's maybe one of the reasons it has been quite slow in gaining users. because... really cannot update old iPhones. super laggy. #personalexperience<br /><br />Yeah. I share the same sentiments as you for the subpar UI. it maybe because of their management problem. In fact, one of their key executive for Apple Music (Ian Rogers), recently just left the company. Bad sign.MLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16837092729293214514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-60128719856259616862015-09-06T02:02:51.740-07:002015-09-06T02:02:51.740-07:00Hahaha, regarding the numbers, it came a little fr...Hahaha, regarding the numbers, it came a little from my own experience.... Cuz I like Apple's business a lot, so I do read and analyzed their numbers, that's why I kinda know the groups' calculations were a little fishy hahaMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16837092729293214514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-70237352335646438142015-09-06T01:19:23.958-07:002015-09-06T01:19:23.958-07:00Hey,
Hope your voice is back!
Personally I felt ...Hey,<br /><br />Hope your voice is back!<br /><br />Personally I felt that it was humorous during the presentation that some teams were talking about how Apple has strict guidelines when it comes to user interface and all (generally strict with all stuff, look at how Apple retailers shopfront all look similar), but yet when it comes to Apple Music there were so many issues with their UI/UX, the worst has to be the wasted screen real estate.<br /><br />Also, I think that even though Apple might be more established and all, Spotify has been early to the game and have an established base of users that already love the application. It might not be an easy fight, but look at Facebook Messenger versus other chatting applications, some might argue that they are kind of different, but the truth is people are still not using Facebook Messenger as their primary mode of chatting. <br /><br />Cheers!<br />Quan yangAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-43448879764356597422015-09-05T09:42:00.809-07:002015-09-05T09:42:00.809-07:00Hi!
Thanks for pointing out that 1 billion iOS dev...Hi!<br />Thanks for pointing out that 1 billion iOS devices != 1 billion users. You're right about that (and newbishh's comment above confirms it further).<br /><br />Interesting thought comes to my mind when you say "Alright, Spotify is gonna die...". Apple is well known for killing apps by providing a better one as a feature of their OS. So much so that it has a special term: "Sherlocked" http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sherlocked<br /><br />Well, until they get Apple Music right, Spotify hasn't been sherlocked. :DAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03586084943372512235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-24457328351966778392015-09-04T23:30:39.448-07:002015-09-04T23:30:39.448-07:00HI!
I’m glad that you have picked out our little ...HI!<br /><br />I’m glad that you have picked out our little intended flaw in our presentation. Treating 1 billion SHIPPED devices as the actual total iOS users is definitely off but it is really hard to account for all of these. We needed a figure to work with, and we found a large one. <br /><br />Not only do some users own multiple iOS devices, some percentage of these devices are not updated to the minimum version of iOS 8.4 for Apple Music to be present. <br /><br />Also, some of these devices has been sold. Of which, some of them may not have found a new owner.<br /><br />Great alternative view regarding what could be done to increase Apple Music's commercial potential as it sounds like a double win for the artists as well as the users. Users would be able to discover from a larger variety of artists, artists will be able to reach out to more listeners. <br /><br />I am really saddened to see how Apple creates a subpar UI for the iPad applications. Wish I would be able to some day get a better overview of their thought process. Definitely not a good idea to push out a rushed product.<br /><br />Just like how this tiny comment box has annoyed me (lol), Apple Music has annoyed me in some form or another. I am currently using it as Apple has provided a 3 month free trial. I can’t say what would happen after the trial period ends!!<br /><br />Ming YiMing Yihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15024518369988881026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-91275256875814714842015-09-02T09:46:38.454-07:002015-09-02T09:46:38.454-07:00Hi Mei Lan!
Couldn't agree more about the imp...Hi Mei Lan!<br /><br />Couldn't agree more about the importance of good UI/UX, especially for a company like Apple that relies on that for their branding. Hard to believe that they've dropped the ball for an official app like this one.<br /><br />It's really interesting to see this review from a business person's perspective. I didn't even pause to think about how accurate the earning calculations were. Regarding Apple's leeway to fail, I agree that their established status allows them to take more risk in trying to push deeper into markets. However, I wonder if the fact that they managed to mess up the UI/UX of this official Apple app might perhaps have other effects than losing some money by also damaging their brand name.<br /><br />Nice review overall!Zheng Yihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10059220382294879785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-24809751621108445902015-08-27T02:44:34.718-07:002015-08-27T02:44:34.718-07:00Awww cats!! I approve!! Hahaha.
Actually re busin...Awww cats!! I approve!! Hahaha.<br /><br />Actually re business people and coders, CS3216 isn't _really_ a technical module, it's much more of a product development module. Hence I find people from all sorts of backgrounds who have useful ideas to share.<br /><br />On 12 October I have Cheryl Guzman-Ng, a PR and communications specialist with experience in places like MediaCorp and Robert Walters, and is now CEO of Cyan Communications, to give a talk about entrepreneurship, and talking to strangers to validate ideas. <br /><br />A skill sorely needed with our dear techie friends. >.<<br /><br />I think it'll be fun!Polarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05568938387529011286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-80449119661823410872015-08-25T21:59:03.624-07:002015-08-25T21:59:03.624-07:00Yup took that in mind! We have since chopped off s...Yup took that in mind! We have since chopped off some features hahaha which felt good cause' we did realised we are bloating the app.. Thanks! :)MLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16837092729293214514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-28166470601508476582015-08-25T21:57:53.545-07:002015-08-25T21:57:53.545-07:00Yes! We did that by drawing the spectrum of users,...Yes! We did that by drawing the spectrum of users, analysed what exactly each type of users want, then focus on the just two types of users whose's need converges. Now we have a clearer focus and a more streamlined approach. MLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16837092729293214514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-363059288115518202015-08-23T07:04:30.640-07:002015-08-23T07:04:30.640-07:00The way to go about this is to:
1) List down ALL...The way to go about this is to: <br /><br />1) List down ALL the features one by one<br />2) For each feature, ask yourself this question: Would the app be solving the problem without this feature? If yes, chop it off. If ya.. somewhat, chop it off. <br />3) Keep doing this until you have 2-3 main features max. <br /><br />When Whatsapp first started, all they had was a messaging system, AND the mechanism for adding your friends through their mobile number. That's it! What problem did they solve? the difficulty of having to ASK and add all your friend's MSN ID, Skype ID, ICQ, etc manually. They focused on the core problem and solved it REALLY well with just one feature, and that was enough to propel them to virality :) Su Yuenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06679240541426083598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-39185917546324574752015-08-23T01:29:05.899-07:002015-08-23T01:29:05.899-07:00Well yeah I focused on the role of non-programmers...Well yeah I focused on the role of non-programmers because all the programmers have gone through Software Engineering and know all the stuff on the slides.. but they know VERY LITTLE about non-programming roles within a software team.<br /><br />Considering how my class is like 80% programmer, I thought talking about non-programming roles is much more important.<br /><br />As for your app.. you need to list down all the features, prioritize them, then cut two lines through the list. The first line is your MVP line. Everything above that line MUST be completed before submission and MUST be well done. The second line is the SHOULD HAVE line. Everything between the MVP line and the SHOULD HAVE line can be done (in order of priority) after the MVP items are well done enough.<br /><br />Everything below that can be moved to the final project (or implemented if there is time).<br />Polarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05568938387529011286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-48286545864980438232015-08-23T01:28:50.979-07:002015-08-23T01:28:50.979-07:00Well yeah I focused on the role of non-programmers...Well yeah I focused on the role of non-programmers because all the programmers have gone through Software Engineering and know all the stuff on the slides.. but they know VERY LITTLE about non-programming roles within a software team.<br /><br />Considering how my class is like 80% programmer, I thought talking about non-programming roles is much more important.<br /><br />As for your app.. you need to list down all the features, prioritize them, then cut two lines through the list. The first line is your MVP line. Everything above that line MUST be completed before submission and MUST be well done. The second line is the SHOULD HAVE line. Everything between the MVP line and the SHOULD HAVE line can be done (in order of priority) after the MVP items are well done enough.<br /><br />Everything below that can be moved to the final project (or implemented if there is time).<br />Polarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05568938387529011286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-91550911422875851732015-08-20T09:15:58.933-07:002015-08-20T09:15:58.933-07:00Yup, I'm really enjoying working in the teams....Yup, I'm really enjoying working in the teams. Learning a lot of new things and expose to new kinds of working style.<br /><br />Hahaha, ah yeah... Interestingly, I had a conversation another CS friend (not in the class) and he commented that CS'sers tend to get too excited about all the cool tech shit, and they program more and more complex thing and eventually the outcome is a cool but maybe unfeasible one. So non-CSers are very important in pulling them back to focus on the core idea. I guess that's the point of CS3216, where it's more about the feasibility of the product, how to market, bla bla bla~~MLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16837092729293214514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3309831888215961476.post-91290950835800345502015-08-20T04:32:51.735-07:002015-08-20T04:32:51.735-07:00I hope you enjoy your stay over in 3216. :) We alw...I hope you enjoy your stay over in 3216. :) We always have good use for business students, particularly because.. well.. CS'ers tend to be "not so good" with customers. :p<br /><br />Polarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05568938387529011286noreply@blogger.com